"Today, you still find airbrush-inspired art in advertising that’s done digitally rather than with ink on paper. The digital art is a little too perfect though — the gradient blends are flawless, while an airbrush would give you the slightest inconsistencies that made it look more genuine."
I feel that way about so much digital painting and illustration now. Artists can work faster than they can with physical media, but the end result is always missing something when there are no happy accidents.
silvestrov 2 hours ago [-]
I think autotune is the poster child for this.
Popsongs today sound so nice but also so forgetable.
I think this is why 80s and 90s pop is still so popular.
vanderZwan 1 hours ago [-]
Ironically, T-Pain, arguably the poster child of using auto-tune, has a great singing voice[0]. Apparently he used it on purpose to stand out.
Probably explains why it works much better for him than for others: he used it as an instrument, not as a crutch to hide a lack of singing skills.
Ironic, because we didn't know the art was improved by the subtle texture of imperfections. We were totally going for maximum hyperrealism and clean precision. I had the same experience of craving an airbrush, obtaining an airbrush, then within a year seeing a demo of 32-bit color graphics editing (a museum had a computer set up for the public to try it out) and feeling silly.
justsomehnguy 11 hours ago [-]
> because we didn't know the art was improved by the subtle texture of imperfections
This is quite amusing, because I always could tell the CGI [in the films] off the real deal because it was or too perfect or too imperfect, along with a shitload of a motion blur.
It was so until Chappie when I couldn't distinguish between the green screen and Rogue One when I couldn't distinguish a fully rendered scene.
Also a conterfeit VHS along with a DivX compressed copies (hey, 4700:700 !) always looked... more immersive than the 'real deal' in a theater, heh.
There’s a lot of CGI that blends in invisibly in most movies made in the last 20 years. Sure we notice the bottom 20% of terrible CGI + stuff that’s blatantly unrealistic, but all the stuff you miss is just quietly worked.
Poor makeup, anachronistic aircraft contrails, unsightly construction cranes, etc get quietly adjusted to make everything look clean in ways that don’t stand out until you start analyzing individual frames. On top of this some kinds of CGI have gotten so common that it’s less obvious how few physical cars are used in car commercials.
amelius 3 hours ago [-]
No, I think the happy accidents happen faster with digital tools, and it is also less costly to make accidents so you will have more of them.
duxup 13 hours ago [-]
Similar to CGI in movies. Yeah it's better in some ways ... but feels like they are often missing character.
The old films with model special effects they have a ton of life to them, more natural camera angles.
cosmic_cheese 11 hours ago [-]
There are some cases where CG in old movies looks better than the average CG in new movies, too, probably because the FX team responsible put a lot more work into getting to look right, despite the technological limitations of the era. No matter the medium, care and attention are felt.
taylorius 6 hours ago [-]
I agree. I think when something is at the cutting edge, and you're creating effects no-one has ever seen before - (the first Jurassic Park, say) - people really go the extra mile to make it look as great as possible. Fast forward to today, when CG is pretty much a commodity - and it's often a lot more about getting it done on time and within budget.
plastic3169 8 hours ago [-]
True but it is also like saying that some office building came out better than other because the workers put more effort into it. There is skill to to the craft but also it’s a game of constraints and how the project is planned and budgeted is large part of how it will look in the end. I believe what has changed is that producers know that cg looking cg is just a stylistic choice among many others and doesn’t hurt the box office in some genres almost at all.
southernplaces7 7 hours ago [-]
Exactly both of these sentiments are what, to me, make photography and film (movies in general) so much more interesting, both visually and emotionally more textured from a couple decades ago, compared to the forced perfection of both today as practiced by so many creators.
I practice black and white photography, for example. So much of what I see of it now looks like the overdone, over-edited forced perfection of style derived from the gritty beauty of much more crudely interesting monochromes of decades past.
aswanson 11 hours ago [-]
That's a complaint I have about 80s music. So perfectly synthesized, it's fake. That's why I like 70s guitar and drums over 80s. Humans make artistic mistakes; it adds character.
pimlottc 13 hours ago [-]
If you enjoy these kinds of shiny 80s style text logos, you will probably enjoy the video for the song "DVNO" by Justice:
And if you like that you can move on to "Stop" for your 80s neon-glow needs, and maybe finish with "D.A.N.C.E." if haven't seen it yet (even though the designs in it are not 80s specific any more).
In the 80's I'd see people airbrushing t-shirts in the mall and at the beach. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. I never did any myself, but I loved watching the artists work. The chrome effect was just awesome. I'm sure a lot of it would be considered campy or tacky today, but age does that. There's nothing like the awe and wonder of being a kid.
Aside: I was more into painting AD&D (Advanced Dungeons & Dragons) miniatures. I still have most of my books and dice. My miniatures may be around here somewhere too, but I have 3 generations of stuff to go through to find it. I want less screen time though and plan to pick up some paints and miniatures soon.
sxp 14 hours ago [-]
The picture of the gynoid is by Hajime Sorayama. He has a very distinct (and slightly NSFW) art style. I'm a computer graphics nerd and I've always been amazed by the curved chrome in his paintings. A lot of my hacky attempts at art tried to replicate that chrome style in Photoshop.
JKCalhoun 40 minutes ago [-]
Yeah, trying to think of the origin of the style... Sorayama was the king but perhaps he owes a little to Richard Corben. And perhaps Richard owes something to the guys in So-Cal like Ed "Big Daddy" Roth and his "Weirdo" t-shirts. (Ha ha, notorious enough at the time to inspire a Leave it to Beaver episode.)
DoneWithAllThat 10 hours ago [-]
It frustrates me that the article doesn’t credit him by name. His art was absolutely iconic, even in a sea of other “chrome-tastic” illustrations. Dude was an absolute master of airbrushed chrome aesthetic.
Things have improved. Modern water-based acrylic paints and sealers are much easier to deal with and give you similar if not better results than enamels. There are finally now some decent compact and quiet tank-less electric pump compressors. Cleaning solutions and cheap airbrushes are much better too. Some cheap airbrushes these days have improved designs and materials that make them superior to expensive 80s airbrushes. For example, I just got a Gaahleri Mobius airbrush and it is almost as good as my far more expensive Iwata airbrush, and far better than my old Paasche which cost me a fortune back then. The future looks bright!
card_zero 13 hours ago [-]
Ooh you had the Paasche Turbo. I nearly went for that one but decided to be sensible and got a Badger. Floating dual-action though, of course, and a stupidly overpowered reservoir compressor. Lots of stripdowns and cleaning fluid and cutting out frisk film with a scalpel. It was terrible. I should take it up again, it's probably a more artistic thing to do now it's not popular.
ChrisMarshallNY 12 hours ago [-]
I had a couple of regular Badgers, and a couple of regular Paasches. I almost never used the Turbo, as cleaning it was a nightmare, and I could get really fine with the regular brushes, with certain tips.
I also probably inhaled a lot of toxic paint. The respirators never seemed to work that well, as I would pick some really cool-looking boogers from my nose.
card_zero 9 hours ago [-]
I wore a face mask (eventually, when I got tired of the paint-up-nose feeling).
Jars of Magic Color were adorable objects, though, all saturated and shiny with their little rubber nipples on top.
esafak 9 hours ago [-]
I always wanted one as a kid! The very name "air brush" sounded cool.
PlunderBunny 15 hours ago [-]
Which nerdy teenager in the 80s with a computer (or a lust for one) could forget the "Ultimate - Play the Game" logo? [0]
What I've read is that Tim Stamper painted the beautiful box artwork and was also responsible for the games' graphics, while Chris Stamper handled the bulk of the coding.
What an incredibly talented family!
egypturnash 14 hours ago [-]
Anyone in the US really, they were mostly a Spectrum shop and that machine absolutely bombed in the US. C64 ports of their games exist, and some c64 exclusives, but I never saw ads for them in the three or four US c64 magazines I subscribed to.
Outside of the occasional software pirate, nobody in the US heard of them until they'd become Rare and been eaten by Nintendo.
egypturnash 15 hours ago [-]
I have explored many looks in my time as a digital artist specializing as Illustrator but the most delightful moments were when I looked at what I was doing and felt like I'd worked out how to quickly and effortlessly get a look that had everything I loved about the airbrush art of my youth, while sitting quietly under a tree in the park with my laptop and drawing tablet.
southernplaces7 5 hours ago [-]
To me, there's a cheapening effect to this.. If you're doing it as an artistic effort. It's a process of having the effort, and its creative spirit, taken out of your hands, done by something else, while you can still pretend at being an artist who made an effort.
TheOtherHobbes 3 hours ago [-]
I don't think it's a cheapening effect, but I do think there's been a lack of boldness and originality compared to handmade graphic design.
I'm a big fan of 60s-to-80s graphic design, including posters, album covers, and game art. Some of it is kitschy and terrible, but the best has a dynamism and enthusiasm that is missing today. It captures and fires up the imagination and literally colours outside the lines. As a metaphor using a device with hard edges and a limited toolset discourages you from doing that.
Thanks for that! Here is a longer video about the scanimate, including demos of a currently working machine and an interview with an operator and an engineer.
I like how it foreshadowed the overuse of chrome finish at the advent of CGI which probably culminated with the Terminator movie.
crq-yml 12 hours ago [-]
Marshall Vandruff, one of the teachers on the popular art education channel "Proko", spoke at length about working with airbrush in discussing his illustration career:
To hear him tell it, it was not particularly glamorous, and hours of fastidious airbrushing to get huge, smooth gradient backgrounds was an RSI-inducer.
I'm pretty sure we can do a better digital emulation of an airbrush than what's currently in paint programs, it just needs more of the actual physics and pigments to be modelled. We've gotten a bit stuck on the RGB raster graphics paradigm and only a few programs are really doing the work to break away from it.
egypturnash 11 hours ago [-]
Honestly you can get like 80% of the way there by just doing a lot of smooth gradients and putting a little noise over it, it's trivial once you stop thinking in terms of "manipulating a virtual paint-depositing tool" and start thinking about what it looks like on the illustration board. Turning a gradient into an emulation of a more deliberately-uneven, splattery, and possibly drippy application of paint is a bit more complex though.
paradox460 13 hours ago [-]
Get into hobbies that can't be replaced by a computer, only augmented by one. Model rail is choc-a-bloc with airbrushing, as are miniatures. I got my Iwata airbrushes specifically for painting HO scale buildings, backdrops, and for weathering rolling stock
bigstrat2003 10 hours ago [-]
Can confirm - I bought an airbrush for painting miniatures back in the day and it was great. Even if you don't use it for anything else, being able to get a smooth base coat of pain in the ass colors (e.g. white, yellow) is well worth it.
kens 10 hours ago [-]
Anyone remember the airbrushed vans of the 70s with complex scenes painted on the sides?
A third option, used by HBO's famous Feature Presentation intro, was to construct a physical chrome object and film it, as happens with the flying HBO logo.
I feel that way about so much digital painting and illustration now. Artists can work faster than they can with physical media, but the end result is always missing something when there are no happy accidents.
Popsongs today sound so nice but also so forgetable.
I think this is why 80s and 90s pop is still so popular.
Probably explains why it works much better for him than for others: he used it as an instrument, not as a crutch to hide a lack of singing skills.
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ck0vJBygo
This is quite amusing, because I always could tell the CGI [in the films] off the real deal because it was or too perfect or too imperfect, along with a shitload of a motion blur.
It was so until Chappie when I couldn't distinguish between the green screen and Rogue One when I couldn't distinguish a fully rendered scene.
Also a conterfeit VHS along with a DivX compressed copies (hey, 4700:700 !) always looked... more immersive than the 'real deal' in a theater, heh.
Some anecdata:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30911383
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34488958
Poor makeup, anachronistic aircraft contrails, unsightly construction cranes, etc get quietly adjusted to make everything look clean in ways that don’t stand out until you start analyzing individual frames. On top of this some kinds of CGI have gotten so common that it’s less obvious how few physical cars are used in car commercials.
The old films with model special effects they have a ton of life to them, more natural camera angles.
I practice black and white photography, for example. So much of what I see of it now looks like the overdone, over-edited forced perfection of style derived from the gritty beauty of much more crudely interesting monochromes of decades past.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiDsLRQg_g4
[0] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-R19oA1m8w
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sy1dYFGkPUE
Aside: I was more into painting AD&D (Advanced Dungeons & Dragons) miniatures. I still have most of my books and dice. My miniatures may be around here somewhere too, but I have 3 generations of stuff to go through to find it. I want less screen time though and plan to pick up some paints and miniatures soon.
I don't think so. I used to do a lot of airbrushing, in the 1980s. I even had one of these[0].
I don't miss them at all. They were a huge pain in the ass.
[0] https://paulbudzik.com/tools-techniques/Airbrushing/paasche-...
I also probably inhaled a lot of toxic paint. The respirators never seemed to work that well, as I would pick some really cool-looking boogers from my nose.
Jars of Magic Color were adorable objects, though, all saturated and shiny with their little rubber nipples on top.
0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Play_the_Game
What an incredibly talented family!
Outside of the occasional software pirate, nobody in the US heard of them until they'd become Rare and been eaten by Nintendo.
I'm a big fan of 60s-to-80s graphic design, including posters, album covers, and game art. Some of it is kitschy and terrible, but the best has a dynamism and enthusiasm that is missing today. It captures and fires up the imagination and literally colours outside the lines. As a metaphor using a device with hard edges and a limited toolset discourages you from doing that.
https://indieground.net/blog/the-20-best-videogame-cover-fro...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4WYf2RxUJE
https://youtu.be/i1aT_CqhyQs
https://youtu.be/8qDI8NfCyeg
To hear him tell it, it was not particularly glamorous, and hours of fastidious airbrushing to get huge, smooth gradient backgrounds was an RSI-inducer.
I'm pretty sure we can do a better digital emulation of an airbrush than what's currently in paint programs, it just needs more of the actual physics and pigments to be modelled. We've gotten a bit stuck on the RGB raster graphics paradigm and only a few programs are really doing the work to break away from it.
https://youtu.be/elkYTDkFQzo?si=PE3ZzoASZUqCrda7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1NKoMNy5bY